1 00:00:18,410 --> 00:00:15,519 why did you want to be an astronaut 2 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:18,420 actually I'll correct you many people 3 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:20,430 have asked me that question but it may 4 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:22,680 be the first time I get to tell you the 5 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:30,919 I believed growing up that we would all 6 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:33,450 be astronauts by the time I was you know 7 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:38,239 an adult that's not true obviously and 8 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:40,710 we're not as advanced as I thought we 9 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:44,969 would be but I believed when I was young 10 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:49,440 that that would be my place for some 11 00:00:53,869 --> 00:00:51,539 period of time in my life was to do that 12 00:00:57,170 --> 00:00:53,879 and I think when I went through 13 00:01:00,260 --> 00:00:57,180 university I am a geologist a 14 00:01:02,599 --> 00:01:00,270 geophysicist and I thought well wouldn't 15 00:01:05,149 --> 00:01:02,609 it be great if I learned about rocks 16 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:05,159 minerals in geology and then we went to 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:08,000 the moon and I could help you know 18 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:10,650 utilize resources on the moon because of 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:13,760 my geological experiences and background 20 00:01:17,899 --> 00:01:15,930 so those are the things that interested 21 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:17,909 me and you know I was always interested 22 00:01:24,859 --> 00:01:22,350 in jets and flying and you know watching 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:24,869 the Apollo guys walk on the moon you 24 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:26,250 know that was those were the things that 25 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:27,960 that interested me and that they really 26 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:32,640 caught my attention so I just thought 27 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:36,060 that we would all as a trace be 28 00:01:41,450 --> 00:01:38,280 advancing to where it was standard for 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:41,460 people to be space Ferris you know space 30 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:45,329 explorers I want to get you to take us 31 00:01:48,770 --> 00:01:47,280 along that course but first let's start 32 00:01:50,179 --> 00:01:48,780 at the beginning tell me about your 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:50,189 hometown tell me about where you grew up 34 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:52,170 okay so I I grew up in Lake Orion 35 00:01:57,770 --> 00:01:54,720 Michigan from the age of 10 which is a 36 00:01:59,780 --> 00:01:57,780 suburb of Detroit and before that lived 37 00:02:01,850 --> 00:01:59,790 in Royal Oak Michigan also a suburb of 38 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:01,860 Detroit Lake Orion was a little farther 39 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:07,049 away have fond memories of summer and 40 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:09,209 winter you know I think winters were 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:11,670 quite enjoyable we used to do a lot of 42 00:02:15,130 --> 00:02:13,370 snowmobiling 43 00:02:18,910 --> 00:02:15,140 snow skiing and in the summers we spent 44 00:02:21,850 --> 00:02:18,920 our time waterskiing and being a suburb 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:21,860 of Detroit Motor City I became 46 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:23,450 interested in automobiles at an early 47 00:02:28,410 --> 00:02:25,310 age my father and uncle were both 48 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:28,420 engineers at Ford Motor Company and so 49 00:02:32,289 --> 00:02:30,769 when you grow up in Detroit in the Motor 50 00:02:34,150 --> 00:02:32,299 City and everybody works for the auto 51 00:02:37,890 --> 00:02:34,160 industry you I think have a natural 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:37,900 affinity to like vehicles and cars and 53 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:41,690 you know raced motorcycles at a young 54 00:02:47,770 --> 00:02:44,840 age race bicycle motocross at a young 55 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:47,780 age and race to go karts for you know a 56 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:49,760 number of years after I got out of high 57 00:02:54,220 --> 00:02:51,440 school so I was always interested in 58 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:54,230 doing those things mechanical things and 59 00:02:59,559 --> 00:02:57,200 worked as a mechanic at a at a shop 60 00:03:01,780 --> 00:02:59,569 outside of Detroit so that's sort of 61 00:03:03,729 --> 00:03:01,790 what my childhood was like it was you 62 00:03:05,410 --> 00:03:03,739 know doing all those fun things but a 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:05,420 lot of it revolved around motor sports 64 00:03:14,170 --> 00:03:09,890 and and you know working on mechanical 65 00:03:16,270 --> 00:03:14,180 objects that place and those people had 66 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:16,280 a real impact on the person that you 67 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:18,709 turned out to be yeah I think so yeah 68 00:03:26,259 --> 00:03:22,609 yeah very directly yeah did you get a 69 00:03:28,870 --> 00:03:26,269 chance to see it on your last play I 70 00:03:32,289 --> 00:03:28,880 believe that the the you know the time 71 00:03:37,089 --> 00:03:32,299 I've spent in my life working with tools 72 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:37,099 and familiarity with with with tools in 73 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:39,590 that environment allowed me to be at 74 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:43,040 ease with the things I was doing you 75 00:03:45,909 --> 00:03:44,329 know working with my hands when it came 76 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:45,919 to that not so much with the space 77 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:47,870 walking stuff because that's new to 78 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:51,530 everybody but I didn't have to focus as 79 00:03:55,420 --> 00:03:54,169 much you know the actual tasks 80 00:03:57,370 --> 00:03:55,430 themselves made clear that they were 81 00:03:59,289 --> 00:03:57,380 important and critical but it it didn't 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:03:59,299 require as much of my concentration and 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:02,530 that allowed me to you know expand it to 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:04,730 to understand what else was happening 85 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:05,930 around me like the fact that the earth 86 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:07,790 was spinning below us and we're you know 87 00:04:11,170 --> 00:04:09,889 traveling at 17,000 miles an hour above 88 00:04:12,819 --> 00:04:11,180 it and all those things you know that 89 00:04:14,620 --> 00:04:12,829 was it gave me a little more time to 90 00:04:18,210 --> 00:04:14,630 appreciate that I think what kind of 91 00:04:21,819 --> 00:04:18,220 view did you have of home from space 92 00:04:23,950 --> 00:04:21,829 well I was pretty good on sts-125 we 93 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:23,960 were 300 or so miles up which is a 94 00:04:27,250 --> 00:04:25,969 roughly hundred miles higher than the 95 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:27,260 more the Space Station fly 96 00:04:32,770 --> 00:04:30,370 so we had a broader view of the earth 97 00:04:34,990 --> 00:04:32,780 unfortunately because of the orbit of 98 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:35,000 Hubble we stayed fairly close to the 99 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:37,910 equator of the planet so we were roughly 100 00:04:41,380 --> 00:04:39,740 25 degrees on either side of the equator 101 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:41,390 whereas a Space Station mission goes all 102 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:43,760 the way up to 55 degrees so whereas a 103 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:45,380 Space Station will fly over you know 104 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:48,410 parts of Canada the Hubble for the 105 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:49,850 Hubble mission we really didn't get any 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:51,590 farther north than you know Cocoa Beach 107 00:04:58,690 --> 00:04:54,410 Florida you know that that was it so the 108 00:05:01,630 --> 00:04:58,700 view is is is higher and broader but we 109 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:01,640 don't see as much of the planet because 110 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:03,380 we don't fly as high north and south of 111 00:05:07,330 --> 00:05:05,090 the Equator think your chance to look 112 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:07,340 straight down it right you see things at 113 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:09,110 a very oblique angle which was also very 114 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:10,970 beautiful because some of you know some 115 00:05:16,990 --> 00:05:13,130 of my best memories of space I have 116 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:17,000 I've have really three or four and one 117 00:05:24,310 --> 00:05:21,290 of the best ones was during a spacewalk 118 00:05:27,130 --> 00:05:24,320 flying over just about New Orleans and 119 00:05:29,140 --> 00:05:27,140 looking north and seeing Michigan you 120 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:29,150 know my home state I could see it in the 121 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:30,560 distance and it was just beautiful it 122 00:05:34,420 --> 00:05:32,390 was really a slight angle so I could see 123 00:05:37,030 --> 00:05:34,430 the Great Lakes and it was just falling 124 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:37,040 into the shadow you know of darkness but 125 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:38,690 it was just a beautiful beautiful sight 126 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:40,250 I thought hey that's pretty neat that's 127 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:41,690 my home you know that's my state I can 128 00:05:45,340 --> 00:05:43,190 see you know where I where I grew up 129 00:05:46,630 --> 00:05:45,350 practically or at least whereabouts and 130 00:05:48,190 --> 00:05:46,640 the other one of the other great 131 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:48,200 memories was flying over Houston and my 132 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:49,010 first DVA 133 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:51,980 right at the end of the the last you 134 00:05:57,010 --> 00:05:53,090 know right at the end of the spacewalk 135 00:05:58,690 --> 00:05:57,020 on the robotic arm but I was facing the 136 00:06:01,360 --> 00:05:58,700 earth and the shuttle was behind me so 137 00:06:03,490 --> 00:06:01,370 there was nothing between myself and the 138 00:06:05,410 --> 00:06:03,500 earth except my visor and just looking 139 00:06:08,170 --> 00:06:05,420 straight down at Houston I mean I could 140 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:08,180 see everything I could see you know 141 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:09,980 maybe I couldn't see it but I I 142 00:06:14,050 --> 00:06:11,960 certainly could identify where a Beltway 143 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:14,060 8 was and 610 and all the freeways 144 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:15,500 leading in you know and I could clearly 145 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:17,690 look right down at Clear Lake where you 146 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:19,610 know my house would be just about so 147 00:06:24,190 --> 00:06:22,250 that was pretty neat and then Hawaii 148 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:24,200 seeing Hawaii from space was pretty 149 00:06:29,020 --> 00:06:26,720 pretty spectacular good vivid memories 150 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:29,030 of that as well you touched on this let 151 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:31,190 me get you to tell us the sketch out 152 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:33,650 your your educational in your 153 00:06:37,150 --> 00:06:36,080 professional career that legit to be 154 00:06:42,130 --> 00:06:37,160 here to be asking 155 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:42,140 oh I left high school and stayed home I 156 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:44,720 went to Oakland Community College for 157 00:06:49,570 --> 00:06:47,150 three years to get a degree in 158 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:49,580 geological well it's an associate 159 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:51,710 science degree a two-year science degree 160 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:53,750 I did that in three years specializing 161 00:07:01,000 --> 00:06:57,050 in geology with a minor in industrial 162 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:01,010 design so you could say I was pursuing 163 00:07:04,930 --> 00:07:02,930 two careers one as a scientist one as an 164 00:07:06,670 --> 00:07:04,940 automotive designer those are the two 165 00:07:08,770 --> 00:07:06,680 things I wanted to do and I chose a 166 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:08,780 scientific path over the I guess what 167 00:07:14,260 --> 00:07:12,080 you could say artistic path but while 168 00:07:16,860 --> 00:07:14,270 working or while going to school at the 169 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:16,870 Community College I also worked as a 170 00:07:22,410 --> 00:07:19,370 automobile restoration 171 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,420 you know mechanic in a shop was called 172 00:07:26,770 --> 00:07:24,560 International Auto Works and we restored 173 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:26,780 1950s Jaguars and that's all we did we 174 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:29,870 get these cars in and strip them down to 175 00:07:35,380 --> 00:07:33,080 just the frame and the shells and sent 176 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:35,390 him off for metal stripping and then we 177 00:07:39,820 --> 00:07:37,310 would just slowly rebuild those cars 178 00:07:42,610 --> 00:07:39,830 with new pieces and parts and make 179 00:07:44,830 --> 00:07:42,620 vehicles out of them so that was you 180 00:07:46,930 --> 00:07:44,840 know three-year job while working and 181 00:07:49,210 --> 00:07:46,940 going to school at the same time worked 182 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:49,220 a few summers after that but once I left 183 00:07:54,130 --> 00:07:50,690 Oakland Community College I went to 184 00:07:57,790 --> 00:07:54,140 Purdue and pursued a bachelor's degree 185 00:08:00,100 --> 00:07:57,800 in geophysics or salad salad or sciences 186 00:08:03,580 --> 00:08:00,110 so still geology but with a specialty on 187 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:03,590 geophysics which is sort of like the 188 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:06,050 physics of the earth or or using physics 189 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:08,240 to sense what's you know underneath the 190 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:12,080 surface of the earth and so with the 191 00:08:15,610 --> 00:08:13,970 credits from Oakland Community College 192 00:08:18,340 --> 00:08:15,620 transferred to Purdue I spent three 193 00:08:20,409 --> 00:08:18,350 years of getting the other two years of 194 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:20,419 my degree for a for a bachelor's degree 195 00:08:28,780 --> 00:08:24,050 in in geophysics stayed there to do a 196 00:08:31,330 --> 00:08:28,790 master's degree in geophysics and then 197 00:08:33,339 --> 00:08:31,340 went on to Queen's University in 198 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:33,349 Kingston Ontario from a PhD in 199 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:35,710 seismology and there I studied 200 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:40,310 underground mining seismology and spent 201 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:42,590 some time working in mines in Canada and 202 00:08:47,050 --> 00:08:45,710 in the u.s. installing seismic 203 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:47,060 monitoring or what you could consider 204 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:49,190 earthquake monitoring systems in 205 00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:51,730 underground mines 206 00:08:57,850 --> 00:08:54,470 so I you know that was a four year 207 00:09:00,060 --> 00:08:57,860 program for a PhD worked a few years 208 00:09:04,379 --> 00:09:00,070 after that for a small engineering 209 00:09:07,449 --> 00:09:04,389 consulting firm in Kingston Ontario and 210 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:07,459 and then came down to Houston to work 211 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:10,810 for Exxon Exxon Mobil Corporation as a 212 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,290 geophysical Operations Specialist and 213 00:09:19,889 --> 00:09:16,480 you know doing oil and gas exploration 214 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:19,899 here in the US and actually worldwide 215 00:09:27,009 --> 00:09:24,050 surveys that lasted about three and a 216 00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:27,019 half years and in 2000 I was selected as 217 00:09:32,259 --> 00:09:29,420 an astronaut so it's been ten years 218 00:09:36,340 --> 00:09:32,269 since that point and here we are on the 219 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:36,350 second flight STS 134 and the flying in 220 00:09:41,259 --> 00:09:39,320 space part of your chosen career is one 221 00:09:44,530 --> 00:09:41,269 that we know has the possibility of 222 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:44,540 dangers so I need to ask drew what is it 223 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:46,070 that you think that we're getting as a 224 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:48,769 result of flying people in space that 225 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:52,040 makes it worth doing it I think it's 226 00:09:58,380 --> 00:09:54,260 just that it's flying humans in space 227 00:10:00,610 --> 00:09:58,390 it's flying us off the planet it's 228 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:00,620 considering the possibility of a 229 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:03,470 different home besides Earth ultimately 230 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:09,769 for the human species I think for humans 231 00:10:16,060 --> 00:10:12,079 it's always been about what's out there 232 00:10:19,150 --> 00:10:16,070 are we alone could we be the only ones 233 00:10:20,740 --> 00:10:19,160 in this infinite universe and I think 234 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:20,750 the only way we're gonna find out is if 235 00:10:24,579 --> 00:10:22,760 we keep pushing the boundary and trying 236 00:10:26,650 --> 00:10:24,589 to get out there and and this is just 237 00:10:29,050 --> 00:10:26,660 the beginning I mean we're we're barely 238 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:29,060 getting off our own planet but someday 239 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:30,890 you know if we continue this and 240 00:10:35,889 --> 00:10:33,050 technology continues and as we get 241 00:10:37,389 --> 00:10:35,899 smarter or better at adapting to the 242 00:10:39,130 --> 00:10:37,399 world around us in the universe around 243 00:10:41,829 --> 00:10:39,140 us we will be traveling you know 244 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:41,839 throughout the universe doing amazing 245 00:10:46,569 --> 00:10:44,810 different things and so I think what you 246 00:10:48,430 --> 00:10:46,579 know why is it worth it it's worth it 247 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:48,440 because we can and we're capable and 248 00:10:52,389 --> 00:10:49,910 we're getting better at it and someday 249 00:10:54,970 --> 00:10:52,399 it'll be it'll be just like I thought it 250 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:54,980 was supposed to be when I was a kid that 251 00:10:59,170 --> 00:10:57,920 we all fly in space all the time and 252 00:11:02,960 --> 00:10:59,180 travels through this through the 253 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:05,250 you're a member of the crew on space 254 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:08,770 shuttle mission sts-134 drew summarized 255 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:10,690 the overall goals of this flight and 256 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:12,240 tell me what your jobs are going to be 257 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:15,300 the overall goals of this flight that's 258 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:17,710 that's a pretty big question I'll try to 259 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:22,300 summarize it our main payload is the 260 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:24,300 Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer which is a 261 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:26,560 science payload that we're carrying in 262 00:11:31,860 --> 00:11:29,410 the shuttle to place on the external 263 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:31,870 truss of the space station that's a 264 00:11:35,900 --> 00:11:33,520 payload that's it's a two billion dollar 265 00:11:39,510 --> 00:11:35,910 payload with sixteen countries 266 00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:39,520 participating in some 500 scientists - 267 00:11:45,329 --> 00:11:42,040 that have worked over the past probably 268 00:11:48,449 --> 00:11:45,339 20 years to develop this experiment and 269 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:48,459 it's a follow-on to AMS one Alpha 270 00:11:52,380 --> 00:11:49,930 Magnetic Spectrometer one that flew on 271 00:11:54,269 --> 00:11:52,390 Space Shuttle early on so this is a 272 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:54,279 follow-on experiment to that but it will 273 00:11:58,430 --> 00:11:56,290 be permanently placed on the space 274 00:12:02,880 --> 00:11:58,440 station to hopefully collect data 275 00:12:04,889 --> 00:12:02,890 high-energy particle physics data for 276 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:04,899 the life of the remaining life the space 277 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:07,290 station so that is our primary payload 278 00:12:13,170 --> 00:12:09,610 we're launching six crew members to 279 00:12:16,170 --> 00:12:13,180 space all males one European astronaut 280 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:16,180 Roberto Vittori and during the mission 281 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:22,089 will do for EPA's now none of them are 282 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:25,930 associated with AMS but they all are I 283 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:28,240 guess what you could call standard space 284 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:34,270 station repair or maintenance EBA 285 00:12:40,590 --> 00:12:38,830 activities all of your crewmates have 286 00:12:41,820 --> 00:12:40,600 been to the space station before all six 287 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:41,830 of you of course have flown in space 288 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:44,410 before two of them have actually done 289 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:46,570 long-duration missions on the station 290 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:48,850 does that benefit the group in getting 291 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:50,800 prepared for this flight I think so yeah 292 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:52,630 we have a unique crew in that sense so 293 00:12:58,610 --> 00:12:54,760 if you if you look at the makeup of our 294 00:13:04,019 --> 00:12:58,620 crew we have three space shuttle fliers 295 00:13:06,090 --> 00:13:04,029 myself Mark Kelly and Greg Johnson Greg 296 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:06,100 shemitah' also flew on space shuttle but 297 00:13:09,690 --> 00:13:08,079 not as a crew member he was flying up to 298 00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:09,700 do his long-duration mission to spend 299 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:11,740 six months on station Mike Fincke has 300 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:14,290 never flown on a space shuttle but he's 301 00:13:18,740 --> 00:13:15,850 lived on space station for 302 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:18,750 year but only flown on the Soyuz vehicle 303 00:13:23,730 --> 00:13:21,519 Roberto Vittori made two trips to the 304 00:13:26,009 --> 00:13:23,740 space station but never for a long long 305 00:13:28,110 --> 00:13:26,019 term so I think maybe he spent a week at 306 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:28,120 a time up on the space station also only 307 00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:31,779 flown with the Russians so there's a lot 308 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:33,670 of experience but we have varied 309 00:13:37,139 --> 00:13:35,440 experience that I myself have never seen 310 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:37,149 the space station I've only flown to 311 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:38,470 Hubble which is a completely different 312 00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:41,050 type of emission so for all of us 313 00:13:45,749 --> 00:13:42,899 although we have a lot of experience 314 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:45,759 very few of us have the same experiences 315 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:49,110 so that has benefited us in many ways 316 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:50,920 preparing so everybody has a different 317 00:13:56,189 --> 00:13:53,529 way that they approach tasks and 318 00:13:57,569 --> 00:13:56,199 objectives and also problems and I think 319 00:13:59,519 --> 00:13:57,579 that's been a positive thing there's 320 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:59,529 been a lot of growing pains with us or 321 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:01,120 you know learning about each other in 322 00:14:04,650 --> 00:14:02,290 the ways that we've done things in the 323 00:14:06,329 --> 00:14:04,660 past and all of our experiences but I 324 00:14:08,939 --> 00:14:06,339 think overall it's made us a stronger 325 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:08,949 crew with you know more ways to approach 326 00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:11,740 problems well let's talk about some of 327 00:14:14,730 --> 00:14:12,940 the cargo that you bring into the 328 00:14:16,999 --> 00:14:14,740 station start with the Express logistics 329 00:14:19,139 --> 00:14:17,009 carrier three tell me what that is 330 00:14:22,110 --> 00:14:19,149 Express logistics carrier three we 331 00:14:23,370 --> 00:14:22,120 called ELC three it's one of four that 332 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:23,380 will live permanently on the space 333 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:26,800 station and essentially they are storage 334 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:28,569 shelves for spare parts for the space 335 00:14:34,650 --> 00:14:30,550 station one of the components on our 336 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:34,660 Express logistics carrier is a robotics 337 00:14:42,780 --> 00:14:39,120 arm called spdm a special purpose 338 00:14:45,929 --> 00:14:42,790 dexterous manipulator I believe and what 339 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:45,939 that allows the canadarm2 that lives on 340 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:48,399 space station to do is perform tasks 341 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:50,050 that are normally done by space walkers 342 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:52,930 so it gives it in a sense arms and hands 343 00:14:58,650 --> 00:14:55,990 and allows it to carry out activities 344 00:15:00,090 --> 00:14:58,660 that we would normally do but over a 345 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:00,100 much longer period of time with 346 00:15:04,319 --> 00:15:02,110 significant input from a ground control 347 00:15:05,429 --> 00:15:04,329 team so that's that's one of the 348 00:15:08,329 --> 00:15:05,439 components that's probably one of the 349 00:15:14,030 --> 00:15:08,339 main components that we see on our ELC 350 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:14,040 component but overall those pieces are 351 00:15:19,230 --> 00:15:16,930 you know spare parts racks for the space 352 00:15:21,389 --> 00:15:19,240 station so what does it take for you and 353 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:21,399 your crewmates to install it get it out 354 00:15:25,470 --> 00:15:23,199 of the payload Bay and up on the top 355 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:25,480 side of the truss where it's robotically 356 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:27,730 installed there are no e VA activities 357 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:29,650 associated with installing 358 00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:32,830 the elsi rack and what we do is use the 359 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:35,140 Space Shuttle Canada arm to lift the 360 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:36,730 component out of this space shuttle 361 00:15:42,090 --> 00:15:39,850 payload Bay and place it in a position 362 00:15:43,650 --> 00:15:42,100 that allows Canada arm to from the space 363 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:43,660 station to come over and grab a hold of 364 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:46,000 the LC and we call that a hand off and 365 00:15:50,820 --> 00:15:47,790 then they take it and move it on to its 366 00:15:52,590 --> 00:15:50,830 permanent location on Space Station the 367 00:15:54,540 --> 00:15:52,600 other major component that's riding up 368 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:54,550 in your payload Bay is the Alpha 369 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:57,040 Magnetic Spectrometer you touched on 370 00:16:00,960 --> 00:15:58,480 that a moment ago tell me more tell me 371 00:16:03,290 --> 00:16:00,970 about what this does from its perch out 372 00:16:07,769 --> 00:16:03,300 on the station's truss I'll give you the 373 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:07,779 my best description as a non particle 374 00:16:13,410 --> 00:16:11,350 physicist if I can it's a fairly large 375 00:16:18,269 --> 00:16:13,420 component it is roughly the size of the 376 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:18,279 payload Bay in diameter which which I 377 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:19,690 guess makes it about twelve feet across 378 00:16:25,530 --> 00:16:23,830 or so and and it's it's sort of round 379 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:25,540 shaped like a doughnut you can think of 380 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:29,290 as that and its job is to detect 381 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:32,800 particles cosmic rays and particles in 382 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:34,690 space that pass through the magnet and 383 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:39,550 the magnets function is to bend the 384 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:42,220 particles as they pass through the 385 00:16:47,610 --> 00:16:45,730 middle of this doughnut to help detect 386 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:47,620 or characterize what those particles are 387 00:16:55,019 --> 00:16:51,130 and AMS is designed to look for a dark 388 00:16:57,930 --> 00:16:55,029 matter in the universe which essentially 389 00:16:59,840 --> 00:16:57,940 makes up our 70% of the universe we 390 00:17:02,519 --> 00:16:59,850 believe it does based on estimates of 391 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:02,529 planets sizes and stars and 392 00:17:05,699 --> 00:17:04,300 gravitational you know pull the way we 393 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:05,709 understand it we think there's a lot 394 00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:07,449 more matter and energy out there than we 395 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:09,400 can see dark dark matter and dark energy 396 00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:13,329 so AMS is goal is to characterize those 397 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,150 high-energy particles and try to 398 00:17:20,490 --> 00:17:18,400 determine which of those our antimatter 399 00:17:24,299 --> 00:17:20,500 and specifically I think it's tuned to 400 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:24,309 anti helium and anti carbon and then 401 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:26,470 also to look at so to characterize each 402 00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,240 particle that passes through it based on 403 00:17:32,730 --> 00:17:30,400 its its mass its charge and its total 404 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:32,740 energy and so there are there's a series 405 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:34,990 of detectors kind of like a cake you 406 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:36,870 know built like a layer cake inside that 407 00:17:40,919 --> 00:17:39,190 device that as the particles pass 408 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:40,929 through the middle each of these layers 409 00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:42,280 has a different function to help 410 00:17:45,450 --> 00:17:43,270 characterize them 411 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:45,460 to charge or the energy of that of that 412 00:17:50,010 --> 00:17:47,290 particle that's passing through it 413 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:50,020 to determine what it really is the 414 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:53,230 advantage of it is that on earth we can 415 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,750 we build particle accelerators and track 416 00:17:59,970 --> 00:17:57,520 to with magnets accelerate particles 417 00:18:01,920 --> 00:17:59,980 around a ring and eventually smash those 418 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:01,930 into a detector or another particle to 419 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:04,570 make new particles but we really can't 420 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:08,110 reach the level of energy that that's 421 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:10,450 desired and in space we have very 422 00:18:14,490 --> 00:18:12,100 high-energy particles that are always 423 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:14,500 present that don't get attenuated by the 424 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:16,960 Earth's atmosphere or magnetic field so 425 00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:19,930 this is sort of a raw original place to 426 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:21,460 measure these we call like an in situ 427 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:22,810 measurement of these high-energy 428 00:18:26,850 --> 00:18:25,270 particles so that sits out there on the 429 00:18:28,530 --> 00:18:26,860 space station truss and these 430 00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:28,540 high-energy particles with very high 431 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:30,070 velocities you know faster than we can 432 00:18:33,870 --> 00:18:31,570 accelerate them on earth are passing 433 00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:33,880 through this detector at all times and 434 00:18:36,810 --> 00:18:35,380 then and then we use the different 435 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:36,820 layers in there to characterize what 436 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:38,590 those particles are so it's something 437 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:39,970 that we believe we can't achieve on 438 00:18:44,610 --> 00:18:42,730 earth in terms of creating the particles 439 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:44,620 to then characterize what they are I 440 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:47,110 think the next question though is is why 441 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:50,140 why do we want to detect those particles 442 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:51,640 what was the significance of what it's 443 00:18:57,030 --> 00:18:54,970 looking for well you know that's sort of 444 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:57,040 a philosophical question I mean that's a 445 00:19:00,630 --> 00:18:59,050 question of science why do we explore 446 00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:00,640 anything so it's in a sense its 447 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:03,640 exploration of the of the universe and 448 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:06,310 it's a way for us to help determine what 449 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:07,600 is out there you know what does a 450 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:09,430 universe made made up where did it all 451 00:19:12,990 --> 00:19:11,530 start similar to what Hubble does you 452 00:19:14,790 --> 00:19:13,000 know how the telescope looking back at 453 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:14,800 the origins of the universe by 454 00:19:18,570 --> 00:19:16,600 characterizing these particles that we 455 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:18,580 can't see we can't detect we can only 456 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:21,460 infer on earth by trying to search for 457 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:23,650 them in space we may better define and 458 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:25,810 understand you know what is the makeup 459 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:27,490 of the universe what is its origins how 460 00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:29,290 did it develop and where is it where is 461 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:30,640 it headed so that's the only 462 00:19:35,370 --> 00:19:33,430 significance of well that's the 463 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:35,380 significance that I can relate to 464 00:19:40,170 --> 00:19:37,690 I'm sure there's much much more but it's 465 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:40,180 an important experiment yet talk about 466 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:42,580 the procedure how does AMS get out of 467 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:43,730 the payload Bay and 468 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:46,250 into its position AMS is positioned 469 00:19:52,030 --> 00:19:48,830 similar to what the ELC palate is or 470 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:52,040 really any any payload that flies to 471 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:53,690 Space Station in the back of the shuttle 472 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:56,570 payload base so we use the shuttles 473 00:20:00,370 --> 00:19:57,890 Canada arm to lift it out of the payload 474 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,380 Bay and canadarm2 comes over and picks 475 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:02,720 it up and does a handoff and places it 476 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:05,030 up high on the truss and in particular 477 00:20:10,750 --> 00:20:08,090 it's sitting on a inboard location of 478 00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:10,760 one of the starboard side trusses so if 479 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:12,080 you're looking at the front of the space 480 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:13,820 station it would be on the left 481 00:20:18,940 --> 00:20:17,090 on the top of the truss which is 482 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:18,950 presumably where the cosmic rays are 483 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:20,450 coming well you know I'm not so sure 484 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:23,810 that it matters where its position that 485 00:20:28,090 --> 00:20:25,730 happened to be the best position from a 486 00:20:30,460 --> 00:20:28,100 thermal standpoint and also an available 487 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:30,470 place to put it because of course those 488 00:20:35,890 --> 00:20:31,850 particles are coming from all different 489 00:20:38,890 --> 00:20:35,900 directions really up their plan for this 490 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:38,900 mission as you said calls for three four 491 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:41,450 rather four spacewalks by three teams of 492 00:20:48,190 --> 00:20:45,410 space walkers what's your role in this 493 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,200 group activity so we do have three teams 494 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:50,480 of space walkers and I was fortunate to 495 00:20:56,260 --> 00:20:52,430 be assigned as evreyone or the lead 496 00:20:58,330 --> 00:20:56,270 spacewalker on this mission and I I'm 497 00:21:00,580 --> 00:20:58,340 heading up a team of two others Mike 498 00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:00,590 Fincke and Greg Chamitoff both who are 499 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:03,470 long-duration space station members greg 500 00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:05,750 has not previously done a spacewalk so 501 00:21:09,130 --> 00:21:07,190 he's really looking forward to this 502 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:09,140 opportunity to do two spacewalks on the 503 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:12,080 mission and Mike think we'll be working 504 00:21:16,510 --> 00:21:13,630 well be working together with Mike on 505 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:16,520 the three other spacewalks for the 506 00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:21,470 mission so ETA 1 is myself from Greg 507 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:25,190 Shama Tov Evy a2 is is myself and Mike 508 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:27,650 think Evy a3 is myself and Mike Fincke 509 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:29,510 and then Evie a4 is is Mike thinking 510 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:32,930 Greg Shambo Tov so that's the way it's 511 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:36,530 playing out and it's you know it's 512 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:39,050 interesting to lead somebody Greg Mike 513 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:40,490 Fincke was a commander of the space 514 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:43,310 station so as a lead spacewalker it's 515 00:21:46,570 --> 00:21:45,410 it's interesting and I think it's neat 516 00:21:49,210 --> 00:21:46,580 for us to work together human he's a 517 00:21:51,370 --> 00:21:49,220 former commander and I'm sort of the 518 00:21:53,650 --> 00:21:51,380 lead Evy a space Walker so there's a lot 519 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:53,660 of great information that's that's built 520 00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:55,460 into that team you know we've all got a 521 00:21:59,739 --> 00:21:57,049 lot of experience he's 522 00:22:02,529 --> 00:21:59,749 I believe six or lon evie A's in the 523 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:02,539 Russian spacesuit so he has spacewalking 524 00:22:08,409 --> 00:22:04,809 experience just not in a u.s. spacesuit 525 00:22:10,090 --> 00:22:08,419 and during the the spacewalks the one of 526 00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:10,100 you that's not outside is gonna be 527 00:22:14,289 --> 00:22:11,600 running things inside that's right the 528 00:22:16,239 --> 00:22:14,299 the the person who's not outside is is I 529 00:22:18,909 --> 00:22:16,249 guess you could say the quarterback or 530 00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:18,919 the you know the director inside working 531 00:22:23,889 --> 00:22:22,100 from the shuttle flight deck reading the 532 00:22:25,389 --> 00:22:23,899 choreography of the steps and you know 533 00:22:27,729 --> 00:22:25,399 trying to keep us on track on the 534 00:22:29,649 --> 00:22:27,739 timeline telling us which tax tasks are 535 00:22:33,159 --> 00:22:29,659 next and you know it keeps all of you 536 00:22:34,779 --> 00:22:33,169 familiar with all of four EPS yeah yeah 537 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:34,789 yeah it does it really helps in that 538 00:22:37,749 --> 00:22:36,049 sense because and we've also 539 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,759 cross-trained in the neutral buoyancy 540 00:22:41,379 --> 00:22:39,679 lab as well so we all have a good 541 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:41,389 understanding of what the spacewalkers 542 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:43,190 are going through and the and as 543 00:22:46,859 --> 00:22:44,809 spacewalkers you do need to have some 544 00:22:49,479 --> 00:22:46,869 appreciation of what you're putting the 545 00:22:51,129 --> 00:22:49,489 the IV crew member or the you know the 546 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:51,139 quarterback inside to because there are 547 00:22:56,229 --> 00:22:52,940 a lot of tasks or a lot of activities 548 00:22:58,479 --> 00:22:56,239 we're not always working in unison 549 00:23:00,460 --> 00:22:58,489 sometimes we get split up and so the 550 00:23:03,070 --> 00:23:00,470 individual inside is responsible for the 551 00:23:04,810 --> 00:23:03,080 two of us in keeping us on track and 552 00:23:06,849 --> 00:23:04,820 also coordinating with ground controls 553 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:06,859 so there is a significant amount of 554 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:09,200 effort that goes on inside the space 555 00:23:12,849 --> 00:23:10,730 shell trying to keep the people outside 556 00:23:15,970 --> 00:23:12,859 you know working productively and not 557 00:23:18,099 --> 00:23:15,980 getting behind them so that things can 558 00:23:20,919 --> 00:23:18,109 keep moving let's talk about what's on 559 00:23:24,099 --> 00:23:20,929 the plan at least as we as we tell you 560 00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:24,109 today first spacewalk you and Greg are 561 00:23:30,220 --> 00:23:27,200 outside what is review so the big plan 562 00:23:32,139 --> 00:23:30,230 EBA one the the first couple of 563 00:23:35,739 --> 00:23:32,149 objectives involved the missies which 564 00:23:37,810 --> 00:23:35,749 are experiments static experiments some 565 00:23:41,739 --> 00:23:37,820 are powered some are not that that sit 566 00:23:43,749 --> 00:23:41,749 out on the space station trusses and are 567 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:43,759 open to space and they're they 568 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:47,090 essentially capture space particles as 569 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:48,830 well not in the same way that AMS does 570 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:52,190 but they they have exposed surfaces in 571 00:23:56,830 --> 00:23:54,710 those there's sort of calm expose 572 00:23:58,389 --> 00:23:56,840 facilities so they have materials they 573 00:24:01,509 --> 00:23:58,399 may have different materials in there or 574 00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:01,519 metals or fabrics or gels or whatever 575 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:03,350 that they're either looking at the 576 00:24:08,019 --> 00:24:06,230 effects of space on those materials or 577 00:24:10,570 --> 00:24:08,029 actually trying to capture you know 578 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:10,580 little particles for later analysis you 579 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:10,850 know 580 00:24:15,730 --> 00:24:12,890 then gels are some some material like 581 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:15,740 that so on the first spacewalk Greg 582 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:17,090 Shama Tov and I will go out and retrieve 583 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:20,210 two that have been out there for I 584 00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:23,810 believe over a year about a year so by 585 00:24:28,270 --> 00:24:25,400 the time we get to him and then we'll 586 00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:28,280 we'll place two two new ones out in 587 00:24:33,790 --> 00:24:30,860 those same locations that's first and 588 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:33,800 then what's next for us on that day is 589 00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:37,370 to set up for evey a2 which involves 590 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:39,980 filling some filling ammonia back into 591 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:41,510 one of the radiators that has leaked out 592 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:43,730 over a number of years so we'll spend 593 00:24:49,810 --> 00:24:46,310 evey a1 preparing for those activities 594 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:49,820 on TV a2 and then we'll end the day with 595 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:52,790 work on the the u.s. laboratory and 596 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:54,230 notes section where we're laying out 597 00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,410 some wireless antennas that are actually 598 00:25:01,060 --> 00:24:59,120 designed to communicate with the ELC 599 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:01,070 palates and these are new antennas so 600 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:03,050 there's some wiring and cabling involved 601 00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:03,680 with that 602 00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:05,150 that takes up the last couple of hours 603 00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,860 of that EBA let's give you an 604 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:08,960 opportunity to crawl around a 605 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:10,730 significant portion of the station it 606 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:14,450 does will will be traversing from one 607 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:16,310 end to the other of the space station on 608 00:25:21,910 --> 00:25:18,670 just about every VA except for e VA 609 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:21,920 three and that'll be new for me because 610 00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:23,810 of course on the Hubble mission I we 611 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:25,190 lived in the back of the payload Bay and 612 00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:27,890 Hubble wasn't very far and on the space 613 00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,540 station mission usually spend you know 614 00:25:34,150 --> 00:25:31,520 get a lot of mileage out of the out of 615 00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:34,160 the suit two days after the first 616 00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:36,440 spacewalk Mike and Greg are swapping 617 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:39,500 places and for the for the second D 618 00:25:44,140 --> 00:25:41,780 being one of the jobs for for you 619 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:44,150 outside on EB a number two so Mike 620 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:45,920 Fincke and I go out on e VA to Micah 621 00:25:49,870 --> 00:25:47,510 think comes out the door first we call 622 00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:49,880 him essentially eveyone for the day and 623 00:25:55,390 --> 00:25:51,830 we just take turns you know leaving each 624 00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:55,400 day's activities so we go out on evey a 625 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:57,260 to and that whole day is really 626 00:26:02,740 --> 00:25:58,610 dedicated to two things 627 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:02,750 filling the port radiator with refilling 628 00:26:07,660 --> 00:26:03,890 up one of the port radiators with 629 00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:07,670 ammonia and rotate lubricating the solar 630 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:10,190 array rotary joint on the port side of 631 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:12,050 the space station that's something 632 00:26:19,930 --> 00:26:16,250 that's been done in the past we have in 633 00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:19,940 in history three or four times no I 634 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:23,150 think actually rotated the solar solar 635 00:26:26,270 --> 00:26:24,720 array rotary joints and that involves 636 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:26,280 removing some covers using an actual 637 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,130 grease gun with some special lubricant 638 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:31,440 to provide grease for this bearing 639 00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:33,809 surface that rotates in space and then 640 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:36,120 the ammonia fill is also a very 641 00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:38,370 time-consuming job not a lot of work to 642 00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:40,620 do aside from opening and closing valves 643 00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:42,150 and mating and demanding ammonia lines 644 00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:45,270 but that in itself is fairly tricky and 645 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:49,320 wrought with peril so we will we will do 646 00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:51,090 our best you know we've trained hard for 647 00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:54,600 that activity and we'll do our best to 648 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:57,750 to not let any ammonia leak out it that 649 00:27:02,720 --> 00:26:59,730 because if it does that involve some 650 00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:02,730 other actions on our part to allow that 651 00:27:08,330 --> 00:27:06,049 ammonia to what we call baked out or 652 00:27:09,980 --> 00:27:08,340 sublimate off of the spacesuits before 653 00:27:11,299 --> 00:27:09,990 we go back inside it's not a substance 654 00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:11,309 we like to take inside of the space 655 00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:14,070 station with us that lube job on the 656 00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:15,750 rotary joint not exactly what you 657 00:27:19,010 --> 00:27:17,640 learned as a kid working on cars but 658 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,020 well that's probably exactly what I 659 00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:20,880 learned working on cars the grease guns 660 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:22,500 look the same it looks like a caulking 661 00:27:26,210 --> 00:27:24,690 gun but the concept is the same I mean 662 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:26,220 and I think all of us understand that 663 00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:27,360 pretty well you know what we're trying 664 00:27:32,990 --> 00:27:30,000 to do carrying out as it's always a 665 00:27:35,659 --> 00:27:33,000 little bit more challenging in space for 666 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:35,669 the wild mouse when space walks done on 667 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,270 the station 668 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:38,159 prior to spacewalk the night before 669 00:27:43,490 --> 00:27:40,289 space walkers had camped out in the 670 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:43,500 airlock as a way to get their bodies 671 00:27:47,180 --> 00:27:46,289 ready to fight against any decompression 672 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,190 sickness Hey 673 00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:49,440 before the 30 VA on this mission you're 674 00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:51,030 looking at trying out a different 675 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:53,580 pre-breathe protocol tell us a little 676 00:27:59,740 --> 00:27:55,980 bit about what this new procedure is all 677 00:28:04,279 --> 00:27:59,750 right so we we were introduced to 678 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:04,289 pre-breathe option by Mike Bernhardt an 679 00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:06,390 astronaut in the Corps and it's called 680 00:28:12,140 --> 00:28:08,760 the insuit light exercise pre-breathe 681 00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:12,150 protocol we call it aisle is le for in 682 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:14,340 suit light exercise protocol and it 683 00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:16,409 offers us as you mentioned what we 684 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:18,270 typically do for a Space Station mission 685 00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:21,450 is we camp out in the station's airlock 686 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:25,140 with at a lower pressure to allow our 687 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,049 bodies to purge other nitrogen that's 688 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:30,960 that's in in our bloodstream and then in 689 00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:34,110 the morning when we wake up and start 690 00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:35,580 prepare for the EBA and have to allow 691 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:36,990 other crew members to come and help us 692 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:38,570 we have to put on 693 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:41,129 oxygen high percent oxygen breathing Max 694 00:28:44,959 --> 00:28:43,590 and maintain that oxygen seal around our 695 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:44,969 face so that we don't introduce more 696 00:28:49,009 --> 00:28:48,210 nitrogen back into our blood we have 697 00:28:50,899 --> 00:28:49,019 another option 698 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:50,909 aside from camp out which is called 699 00:28:56,659 --> 00:28:53,129 exercise pre-breathe protocol which 700 00:28:58,369 --> 00:28:56,669 doesn't involve capping out at 10.2 psi 701 00:28:59,539 --> 00:28:58,379 overnight in an airlock but involves us 702 00:29:01,759 --> 00:28:59,549 waking up in the morning 703 00:29:03,859 --> 00:29:01,769 donning an oxygen mask and riding a 704 00:29:07,339 --> 00:29:03,869 bicycle for 10 minutes at a fairly high 705 00:29:08,989 --> 00:29:07,349 level of exertion to to you know get the 706 00:29:10,729 --> 00:29:08,999 100 percent oxygen flowing through our 707 00:29:13,729 --> 00:29:10,739 blood and then purging that nitrogen by 708 00:29:15,289 --> 00:29:13,739 doing exercise and now we have a third 709 00:29:17,239 --> 00:29:15,299 option which is called the insuit light 710 00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,249 exercise pre breeze protocol which 711 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:19,679 involves us having a normal sleep period 712 00:29:25,639 --> 00:29:21,929 the night before waking up in the 713 00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:25,649 morning and then donning the spacesuit 714 00:29:32,209 --> 00:29:27,359 so getting into the spacesuit like we 715 00:29:33,769 --> 00:29:32,219 normally would and then decreasing the 716 00:29:36,259 --> 00:29:33,779 pressure in the airlock and having the 717 00:29:38,629 --> 00:29:36,269 pressure the suits at nominal pressure 718 00:29:40,639 --> 00:29:38,639 and then performing exercise in the 719 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:40,649 suits and it's not really exercised as 720 00:29:46,489 --> 00:29:42,809 much as it is just moving your arms and 721 00:29:48,049 --> 00:29:46,499 legs for a certain period of time - so 722 00:29:50,659 --> 00:29:48,059 now you've got the advantage of you're 723 00:29:53,329 --> 00:29:50,669 out 100% oxygen and you're at a lower 724 00:29:55,219 --> 00:29:53,339 pressure and you're exercising so you 725 00:29:57,619 --> 00:29:55,229 are sort of combining the the airlock 726 00:29:59,989 --> 00:29:57,629 campout pre breeze with the exercise 727 00:30:01,159 --> 00:29:59,999 pre-breathe with the suit itself and 728 00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:01,169 you're already in the sea and you're 729 00:30:05,299 --> 00:30:02,940 already in the suit right so that that 730 00:30:06,919 --> 00:30:05,309 sort of avoids exercising on a bike or 731 00:30:09,139 --> 00:30:06,929 camping out overnight it just puts you 732 00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:09,149 in the suit start you moving your arms 733 00:30:12,979 --> 00:30:10,950 and legs while you're breathing 100% o2 734 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:12,989 at a lower pressure and all those things 735 00:30:17,719 --> 00:30:15,330 combined allow us to go out the door and 736 00:30:21,129 --> 00:30:17,729 have as you mentioned better protection 737 00:30:23,899 --> 00:30:21,139 against decompression sickness symptoms 738 00:30:25,639 --> 00:30:23,909 while we're outside working at those at 739 00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:25,649 those lower pressures there's the 740 00:30:31,969 --> 00:30:29,399 activity in the suit does normal pre e 741 00:30:34,009 --> 00:30:31,979 VA activities or something special 742 00:30:36,919 --> 00:30:34,019 Lejeune it's a little bit special I had 743 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:36,929 somebody tell me today our when our suit 744 00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:39,690 trainers she mentioned that we're gonna 745 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:42,899 do the Hokey Pokey in the suit so pretty 746 00:30:48,649 --> 00:30:46,710 simple activities we're just gonna we're 747 00:30:50,539 --> 00:30:48,659 just gonna move our arms move our legs a 748 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:50,549 little bit and try to get the blood 749 00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:51,360 flowing a little 750 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:53,429 more than we normally would and sort of 751 00:30:57,950 --> 00:30:56,220 wait there and purposely do it so it's 752 00:30:59,450 --> 00:30:57,960 really not much more than the things you 753 00:31:01,880 --> 00:30:59,460 would normally do moving your arms and 754 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:01,890 legs as you get into suit but it's it's 755 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:04,950 purposely taking those actions to ensure 756 00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:06,660 that you've covered yourself and 757 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:07,799 provided that level of protection 758 00:31:12,140 --> 00:31:10,260 against decompression sickness okay the 759 00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:12,150 plan is to do this before the third 760 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:13,920 spacewalk which is you and Mike going 761 00:31:19,299 --> 00:31:16,530 next Mike and Mike and I yet what what 762 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:19,309 are you gonna do well we're number three 763 00:31:24,890 --> 00:31:21,929 evie a number three was a late add you 764 00:31:28,570 --> 00:31:24,900 know so we've been training for about a 765 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:28,580 year now together and all along up until 766 00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,200 probably a month and a half ago we had 767 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:32,880 been training three EVs and we've just 768 00:31:39,620 --> 00:31:36,799 added this fourth EBA and this involves 769 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:39,630 installing a power and data grapple 770 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:43,620 fixture or a base for Canada arm - so 771 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:45,780 the Canada arm you know Space Station 772 00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:48,480 arm has a capability of walking around 773 00:31:52,190 --> 00:31:50,309 the space station from end to end to do 774 00:31:54,110 --> 00:31:52,200 different tasks the Russian segment 775 00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:54,120 doesn't really have any of those bases 776 00:31:58,730 --> 00:31:56,910 for the arm to walk on - and this is an 777 00:32:01,820 --> 00:31:58,740 opportunity for us to actually attach 778 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:01,830 one of these base station mechanisms on 779 00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:05,250 to the what we call the FGB or 780 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:07,200 functional cargo block portion of the 781 00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:09,330 space station to allow the arm to walk 782 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:12,120 on to that position and you know do some 783 00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:14,190 tasks in areas that it wouldn't have 784 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:16,500 been able to reach you know previous to 785 00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:18,450 this so this is an activity that's but 786 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:20,220 on the book I believe on the books for a 787 00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:22,770 number of years and hasn't found a home 788 00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:24,840 and we think we found an opportunity to 789 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:27,270 do it then on our mission the advantage 790 00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:29,970 to doing it on our mission on EBA 3 is 791 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:31,320 that Mike Fink has suspend a 792 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:33,030 considerable amount of time on the 793 00:32:36,530 --> 00:32:34,890 Russian segment in the Orlan spacesuit 794 00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:36,540 so by having he and I go out on that 795 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:39,000 task he has some familiar back there 796 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:41,970 that that I don't have and so that 797 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:43,710 that's an advantage just as a team to 798 00:32:47,690 --> 00:32:45,570 get out there and do that work and this 799 00:32:51,549 --> 00:32:47,700 was actually in the plan for the summer 800 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,559 of 2010 and got delayed because of a 801 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:53,760 different of a different issue right 802 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:56,190 right it got they got pushed off so it 803 00:33:00,799 --> 00:32:59,010 fell and that's not uncommon for you 804 00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:00,809 know the stuff to roll downhill and land 805 00:33:03,820 --> 00:33:02,880 on the next point of opportunity which 806 00:33:06,970 --> 00:33:03,830 which happened to be 807 00:33:10,330 --> 00:33:06,980 and that's gonna be your task for the 808 00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:10,340 entirety of evo III it is essentially 809 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:11,990 that's the main task although we have 810 00:33:18,370 --> 00:33:14,809 some other cable routing which we're 811 00:33:19,659 --> 00:33:18,380 calling Y cables for for lack of a 812 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:19,669 better word but they're essentially two 813 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:22,250 cables that have a Y split and I'm there 814 00:33:27,970 --> 00:33:24,679 they're fairly long but they also are 815 00:33:30,490 --> 00:33:27,980 strung along the Russian module and part 816 00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:30,500 of the US module right where the 817 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:33,470 connections made with the the node what 818 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:35,240 we call node one and the Russian module 819 00:33:40,029 --> 00:33:37,370 and these are redundant power supply 820 00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:40,039 cables for the Russian segment so we're 821 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,500 gonna install two of those and allow 822 00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:44,240 their you know provide the capability 823 00:33:47,769 --> 00:33:45,740 for redundant power supply to the 824 00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,779 portions of the Russian segment okay 825 00:33:53,139 --> 00:33:50,240 then the last TVA number four this would 826 00:33:55,419 --> 00:33:53,149 be Mike and Greg going inside what's on 827 00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:55,429 the schedule for this the last deviate 828 00:34:00,009 --> 00:33:57,769 in Greg is going out first for that e VA 829 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:00,019 and that'll be this second of his 830 00:34:06,190 --> 00:34:03,260 spacewalks the third for four Mike 831 00:34:10,409 --> 00:34:06,200 Fincke and that that primary focus of 832 00:34:15,070 --> 00:34:10,419 that EBA is to leave the space shuttle 833 00:34:17,409 --> 00:34:15,080 boom the o BSS the device that we use to 834 00:34:22,329 --> 00:34:17,419 extend the capabilities of the space 835 00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:22,339 shuttle robotic arm that lives on the on 836 00:34:26,139 --> 00:34:24,409 the starboard side of the space shuttle 837 00:34:28,839 --> 00:34:26,149 payload Bay and when we do inspections 838 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:28,849 of the the belly of the orbiter we use 839 00:34:32,379 --> 00:34:30,830 the robotic arm to take that boom out 840 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:32,389 and it's got some cameras on the end of 841 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:34,250 it and we use it to extend you know what 842 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:37,280 the capabilities of the RMR as it as it 843 00:34:41,230 --> 00:34:39,260 looks around the different components of 844 00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:41,240 the of the shuttle we're gonna leave 845 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:45,230 that boom on space station just in the 846 00:34:51,490 --> 00:34:47,570 case that the space station ever has 847 00:34:53,619 --> 00:34:51,500 need for a extended you know canadarm2 848 00:34:56,109 --> 00:34:53,629 if some reason they want their arm to be 849 00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,119 longer this device will be on the space 850 00:35:00,370 --> 00:34:58,880 station we will change the grapple 851 00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:00,380 fixture that's on the end of the boom 852 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,270 right now it's designed to accept the 853 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:04,160 Space Shuttle robotic arm but we're 854 00:35:08,890 --> 00:35:05,950 going to put a new fixture on the end 855 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:08,900 which is again one of these power data 856 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:11,810 grapple fixtures PDGF the same component 857 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:12,770 that we're putting on the Russian 858 00:35:16,850 --> 00:35:13,910 segment we're going to apply one of 859 00:35:19,070 --> 00:35:16,860 these devices at the end of the boom 860 00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:19,080 and leave it resident on space station 861 00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,910 in case the station arm wants to use the 862 00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:22,500 boom tell me about where it's gonna go 863 00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:25,760 and what it takes to prepare that site 864 00:35:33,050 --> 00:35:28,620 it will live it's been left one time 865 00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:33,060 before I believe sts-123 left a boom on 866 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:35,640 orbit and it lives essentially right on 867 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:38,070 top of the US segments on the truss so 868 00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:41,070 it's sort of on s0 and s1 so the 869 00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:42,870 starboard side you know just just to the 870 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:44,910 left of the long axis of the space 871 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,130 station up on the truss and it involves 872 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:52,560 coordination with the Canada arm of the 873 00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:56,400 space station arm to place the boom in a 874 00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:01,440 position where Mike and Greg are ready 875 00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:03,750 to receive the boom into some what we 876 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:05,160 call them call them gun racks but 877 00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:07,050 there's essentially set of jaws that 878 00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:08,790 grab on to fixtures that are on the boom 879 00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:11,070 and closed down like hands that hold it 880 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:13,320 in place and and they you know tighten 881 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:14,940 down those fixtures and secure it into 882 00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:15,450 place 883 00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:18,870 so for spacewalks is uh it's pretty busy 884 00:36:24,860 --> 00:36:23,190 will be busy yeah but that's not unlike 885 00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:24,870 what you were experienced on yours first 886 00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:27,030 light that's right and you know for the 887 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:29,220 sts-125 mission we did five spacewalks 888 00:36:34,190 --> 00:36:31,980 and we didn't have a day in between as a 889 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:34,200 break I personally did so I did Evy A's 890 00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,330 won three and five with a day off in 891 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:38,880 between and I'm days two and four I was 892 00:36:42,590 --> 00:36:40,530 inside you know doing the choreography 893 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:42,600 for the for the next event on this 894 00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:45,090 mission of course we we do our 895 00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:49,560 spacewalks are days five seven nine and 896 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:51,750 eleven so there's always a day in 897 00:36:56,750 --> 00:36:54,930 between still but we're not filling that 898 00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,760 with another team you know doing EVs so 899 00:37:00,350 --> 00:36:58,560 we all sort of get a day off in between 900 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:00,360 instead of just half of the e VA team 901 00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:02,910 which will be nice something else new 902 00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:05,220 during rendezvous and docking and then 903 00:37:09,860 --> 00:37:07,500 again after undocking and fly around 904 00:37:11,570 --> 00:37:09,870 your crews gathering data for what's 905 00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,580 called the development test objective 906 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:14,400 known as storm which stands for sensor 907 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:17,130 test for Orion relative navigation risk 908 00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:19,830 mitigation I'm glad you knew that I fold 909 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:22,020 I read words of the acronym yeah we just 910 00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:25,680 call it storm this will include a rear 911 00:37:29,860 --> 00:37:27,950 on de vous with the station 912 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:29,870 the separation was I think we'd never 913 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:31,970 seen before phillotson on what was this 914 00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:34,010 test is and what you folks will do to 915 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:36,710 support it yeah I hope oh I'm certain 916 00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,690 Mark Kelly will be able to provide more 917 00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:39,920 information as the commander of the 918 00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:41,630 flight and helping with the you know 919 00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:43,540 performing the fly around itself but 920 00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:46,640 essentially what we will do is we will 921 00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:48,590 collect data on the original rendezvous 922 00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:53,180 so storm is a device that uses cameras 923 00:37:59,710 --> 00:37:56,150 essentially visual navigation systems to 924 00:38:03,040 --> 00:37:59,720 look at reflectors and objects on the 925 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:03,050 space station as we approach to provide 926 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:05,420 guidance and navigation information to 927 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:08,990 the approaching vehicle so we have a 928 00:38:13,810 --> 00:38:11,270 laptop computer on the flight deck and 929 00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,820 it's actually my job to monitor the 930 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:15,440 functions of the laptop computer and 931 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,430 report the status to the ground and and 932 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:20,960 understand whether or not it's operating 933 00:38:23,350 --> 00:38:22,190 in the way that we expect as we're 934 00:38:26,350 --> 00:38:23,360 approaching because what they're going 935 00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:26,360 to try to do is use the initial approach 936 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:31,670 data to help calibrate their sensors so 937 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:34,190 that they can relate visual images back 938 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:36,380 to distance and position within the 939 00:38:41,260 --> 00:38:39,650 software and the hardware so and then 940 00:38:43,150 --> 00:38:41,270 when we undock we'll do the standard 941 00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:43,160 space station fly around so we'll undock 942 00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:45,830 will do one loop around one lap around 943 00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:47,360 when we get right back to where just 944 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:48,740 about where we started from for the 945 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:51,050 undock then we'll go up around and 946 00:38:58,410 --> 00:38:54,890 depart out to something like two hundred 947 00:39:02,350 --> 00:38:58,420 and fifty thousand feet or maybe further 948 00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:02,360 but it's quite a ways out on the back 949 00:39:07,090 --> 00:39:04,550 side of the space station and then we'll 950 00:39:08,890 --> 00:39:07,100 begin a second approach back into a 951 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:08,900 station I think to within about six 952 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:11,530 hundred feet is the closest we'll get 953 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:14,930 and on the way back in they will again 954 00:39:20,050 --> 00:39:17,930 collect data on the approach this time 955 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:20,060 hopefully having already done some 956 00:39:23,290 --> 00:39:21,770 calibrations with the with the 957 00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,300 instruments because the initial approach 958 00:39:27,610 --> 00:39:25,760 but also this is again just data 959 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:27,620 collection and calibration of their 960 00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:30,050 images further so that you know in the 961 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:31,670 future if they do additional tests or 962 00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:33,050 it's actually used for you know 963 00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:35,390 operationally for the sole navigational 964 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:38,630 inputs the device and hardware would be 965 00:39:43,479 --> 00:39:40,910 ready to go and this was with an eye 966 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:43,489 future vehicles it is it is it be a 967 00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:46,910 future rendezvous system for you know 968 00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:47,630 whatever 969 00:39:52,779 --> 00:39:51,200 wants to utilize that system sts-134 is 970 00:39:55,749 --> 00:39:52,789 the last scheduled flight of Endeavour 971 00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,759 still gathering data on new for new that 972 00:40:01,239 --> 00:39:58,160 it is yeah yeah 973 00:40:03,249 --> 00:40:01,249 what do you thoughts about this shuttles 974 00:40:05,259 --> 00:40:03,259 place in the history of human 975 00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,269 spaceflight and and work that's been 976 00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:07,359 done in the shuttle program 977 00:40:13,479 --> 00:40:10,910 you mean endeavour or shuttle overall I 978 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:13,489 mean I mean you know all the vehicles 979 00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:14,930 are special and unique and they've all 980 00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:18,529 flown there you know really just a small 981 00:40:22,329 --> 00:40:20,180 complement of what they were designed 982 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:22,339 for maybe not in years but certainly 983 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:24,410 flight life they were all designed for 984 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:26,420 100 missions and we're seeing you know 985 00:40:32,859 --> 00:40:28,910 mid 30 missions out of I think each 986 00:40:34,779 --> 00:40:32,869 vehicle you know my only experience on a 987 00:40:37,059 --> 00:40:34,789 space craft previous to this was 988 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:37,069 Atlantis and it was a great space 989 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:39,170 shuttle it did its job and we flew it 990 00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:40,670 back I'm sure endeavour will perform 991 00:40:45,789 --> 00:40:42,470 just the same way and they've all done 992 00:40:47,950 --> 00:40:45,799 very unique things just you know just as 993 00:40:50,289 --> 00:40:47,960 the shuttle program itself has done 994 00:40:53,739 --> 00:40:50,299 special and unique things for us in 995 00:40:56,109 --> 00:40:53,749 history so you know my own my own 996 00:40:58,209 --> 00:40:56,119 feeling is that yes indeed it's it's 997 00:41:01,089 --> 00:40:58,219 time if we're going to change our focus 998 00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,099 from low-earth orbit the shuttle has 999 00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:02,960 done its job in building the Space 1000 00:41:11,049 --> 00:41:04,420 Station 1001 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:11,059 it would be desirable to have a plan 1002 00:41:16,299 --> 00:41:14,329 that was overlapping or some capability 1003 00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:16,309 that was overlapping with with the space 1004 00:41:20,499 --> 00:41:17,719 shuttle it doesn't look like we're going 1005 00:41:23,410 --> 00:41:20,509 to be there with us 1006 00:41:26,469 --> 00:41:23,420 you know us or you know NASA based 1007 00:41:29,499 --> 00:41:26,479 program but I suspect that we will get 1008 00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,509 there in a matter of time may not even 1009 00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:32,079 be you know in my career it may not 1010 00:41:36,819 --> 00:41:35,660 suing it'll be in my lifetime but you 1011 00:41:39,339 --> 00:41:36,829 know I don't think we're gonna stop 1012 00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:39,349 exploring or flying in space because 1013 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:41,390 we're retiring space shuttles certainly 1014 00:41:45,819 --> 00:41:43,729 done a great job up till now you're 1015 00:41:47,319 --> 00:41:45,829 gonna be flying this mission right 1016 00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:47,329 around a couple of significant 1017 00:41:52,269 --> 00:41:49,910 anniversaries you got the on April 12th 1018 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:52,279 the 50th anniversary of the first human 1019 00:41:55,220 --> 00:41:53,730 spaceflight and the 30 1020 00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:55,230 anniversary of the first shuttle flight 1021 00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:57,510 and then it early May the 50th 1022 00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,160 anniversary of the first American 1023 00:42:04,580 --> 00:42:02,160 surveys flight what are your thoughts 1024 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:04,590 about you being in space right around 1025 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:06,930 the time that what else things are being 1026 00:42:14,570 --> 00:42:09,510 commemorated you know maybe it's fitting 1027 00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:14,580 if if 134 you know remains as the final 1028 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:16,920 space shuttle flight maybe that's the 1029 00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:18,930 appropriate time to fly it as when we're 1030 00:42:22,849 --> 00:42:20,550 marking the anniversary of all these 1031 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:22,859 other great beginnings in space flight 1032 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:26,130 will mark a great end which will 1033 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:27,570 hopefully lead to another great 1034 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,140 beginning you know I I don't think we're 1035 00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:34,560 gonna stop exploring we just I don't 1036 00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:35,790 think humans are capable of not 1037 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:37,859 exploring especially outer space they 1038 00:42:41,230 --> 00:42:39,330 look up into the Stars every night and 1039 00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:41,240 wonder what's up there 1040 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,500 things have changed an awful lot in the 1041 00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:46,160 50 years since Gagarin and Shepard flew 1042 00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:49,350 look 50 years in the future and tell me 1043 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:50,700 where you think we're gonna be then I 1044 00:42:56,570 --> 00:42:53,910 think we'll be on Mars or at least have 1045 00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:56,580 gone to Mars and I hope that we will 1046 00:43:00,109 --> 00:42:58,530 have the capability for sustained 1047 00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:00,119 presence on the moon and that we will be 1048 00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,300 utilizing the resources that we think 1049 00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:05,040 are there that we know are there and 1050 00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,350 those that we have no idea are there but 1051 00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:09,440 they're just waiting for us to go and 1052 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:12,720 you know take advantage of them and and